Ty Herndon

Gay country artist Ty Herndon talks about the Concert for Love & Acceptance, the changing attitudes in county music and a new album

Gregg Shapiro | Contributing Writer
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Ty Herndon knows a thing or two about love and acceptance. Although he was initially embraced by country music fans in the mid-to-late 1990s, a series of unfortunate events — including some related to his sexuality — sidelined his career. But since coming out as a proud gay man in 2014 and finding personal and public acceptance, Herndon has performed at Pride festivals and released albums in which he sings songs with same-gender pronouns.
One of his greatest accomplishments, he says, is the formation of The Foundation for Love & Acceptance and its annual music event, the Concert of Love & Acceptance. This year’s all-star 2021 Concert for Love & Acceptance takes place on June 30 at 7 p.m. Central; it will be live-streamed exclusively on CMT’s Facebook and YouTube channels, and at F4LA.org/concert.
Performers for this year’s concert, in addition to Herndon, include Kristin Chenoweth, Kathy Mattea, Brothers Osborne, Terri Clark, Brooke Eden, Chris Housman, Gretchen Peters and Tenille Townes, to name a few.
This year’s beneficiaries include GLAAD, MusiCares, and Nashville’s Oasis Center. Herndon was generous enough to answer a few questions for Dallas Voice in advance of the concert.

Dallas Voice: Ty, would you please say a few words about the genesis of the Concert for Love & Acceptance? Ty Herndon: At the beginning of creating Love & Acceptance, I’m so happy I trusted my heart. I’ve said this many times, but I stand by this: I wanted to do something for that 14-year-old kid that’s at home watching the CMA Awards. For me, it was Hee Haw! [I was thinking to myself], “Oh my God, I want to sing with Tammy Wynette one day.” But now it’s that kid, who wants to sing with Maren Morris and feels like they’re broken, and they don’t fit in.

I don’t know one actor, singer [laughs], anybody in entertainment that has ever felt like they fit in. It’s a nomadic job. I said from the beginning that I wanted to make that kid, who was also me, sitting out there, wherever they’re from, or their gender, think that they can do anything they want to in this world. It’s just getting the right messaging.

Ty Herdon, right, was honorary grand marshal of the Alan Ross Texas Freedom Parade in 2015.

On June 30, the latest Concert for Love & Acceptance, is being presented with an all-star cast. Did you ever imagine when you first came up with the concept that you would still be involved with each one that followed, and the success of it? I hear, “You’ve got to stay relevant in the business” so much! Reba [McEntire] told me one time, “You’re constantly reinventing yourself, and there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s always moving, always evolving.”

I always credit my Concert For Love & Acceptance for keeping me kind of relevant [laughs], in a great way, because I get to meet and talk and work with all these affirming hearts. Whether they’re on our red carpet or whether they’re on the show or whether it’s a friend like Terri Clark who’s been around with me forever. Or Kathy Mattea!

A lot of these generations of kids will be watching the show because of Brothers Osborne and some of these amazing new acts that are on the radio today. [But] they don’t know who Kathy Mattea is! So we’re going to tell them!

I’m so glad that you mentioned Kathy, and I was happy to see her in the line-up. I remember how supportive she was during the early years of the AIDS crisis, performing at benefits, as well as contributing songs to the Red Hot + Country album. What does it mean to you to have her be part of the concert? I was watching the CMA awards that evening when she was the only artist who had on a red ribbon. A lot of the artists were wearing the green ribbon for supporting the earth and environmental awareness. That red ribbon stood out like crazy! I remember thinking, “Wow, she’s really brave!” There are soldiers out there who tell the truth, no matter what the cost. I love that! I try to stand for that today.

Having the opportunity to be the word “authentic.” I hear a lot of kids say, “What does that mean today?” I’m like [laughs], I can see the window for me to learn something, so I go, “I don’t know. Why don’t you tell me?” Back to Reba, “Constantly growing. Moving forward.”

Also among this year’s performers is longtime ally and icon Kristin Chenoweth. What does it mean to you to have her on the roster? Well, she really didn’t have a choice, because she’s one of my best friends [big laugh]. I was talking to her yesterday. I said, “Oh, you saw your picture on the announcement? Oh yeah, you’re doing the show!” With a star of her magnitude, friend or not, I have to go through the proper channels. She has a great team of people, and they were so delighted. We’re closing out the show with Kristin and my performance this year. It’s gonna be — I can’t tell you, but make sure you stay tuned [laughs].

Has it gotten easier over the years to get performers to say yes, to agree to take part in the Concert for Love & Acceptance? I’m gonna tell you something right now, and I’m probably gonna get emotional. On press day, two days ago, the amount of stuff we used to have to fight for just to get noticed, it just was there. I work hard, yes, but I have a team of people that work so hard. We had a meeting yesterday, and we were talking about this. It’s nice to have the phone ringing, for people to actually want to do the show. It’s mind-blowing, and I get emotional about it.

That’s understandable. You mentioned the Brothers Osborne, and the 2021 Concert for Love & Acceptance features some incredible out country acts, including TJ Osborne of the Brothers Osborne, Brooke Eden and Chris Housman. Since coming out, would you say you are encountering more LGBTQ+ folks in country music? You know what it’s like to turn on [the SiriusXM country music station] The Highway and hear [lesbian country artist] Lily Rose? I’d mean like, wow! Hold on a second, you got me all emotional again.

Sorry. I have that effect. [Laughs] the fact that I am a big old strong cowboy, and I cry about this — that’s the answer to your question. Things are changing, and we’ve been able to see that. It’s awesome.

Do you think that Cody Alan, being an out person on CMT, has helped the Nashville and country music-loving community become more accepting and open-minded? I think everybody knows how luxurious and awesome and wonderful Cody Alan is. The way he speaks into his confidence and his authenticity, and how he can stand next to people who agree and people who don’t agree and still matter and know that he matters. I’ve told him this to his face, “What you’re doing is probably the greatest work.”

Yes, it’s good to have him in the community. Because of the Concert for Love & Acceptance, and your involvement in various charitable events, you can proudly call yourself a philanthropist. What does it mean to you to be able to have such a distinction? I’m going to say something, and I think all my LGBTQ brothers and sisters will laugh about this.

I’ve often thought that that word sounds like the name of a drag queen: “Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the stage, Miss Phyl-Ann Thropist.” But seriously, I just try, on a daily basis, to wake up and, you know I’m a sober guy, so as long as I follow my program, and I do something for someone else, it saves my own ass. I feel like being who I am today keeps me alive.

Finally, Ty, is there are any chance that there is new music from you in the works? I’m going to give you the scoop, my friend. The album is called Jacob. It’s a body of work that I have written with some of the most wide-awake, sober, intelligent, life-changing people in the world. These lyrics mean a lot, and we tracked nine songs yesterday. It was one of the most emotional days I’ve ever had because the album is so personal.