Earlier this week One Million Moms, an affiliate of anti-gay hate group the American Family Association, sent out an email calling on Plano-baed J.C. Penney to fire Ellen DeGeneres — who’d just been named a company spokesperson — because she’s “an open homosexual.”
“Degeneres is not a true representation of the type of families that shop at their store,” One Million Moms wrote. “The majority of JC Penney shoppers will be offended and choose to no longer shop there.”
The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, which responded with a “Stand Up for Ellen” petition that has generated more than 24,000 signatures, reports today that J.C. Penney has rejected One Million Moms’ demands and “stands behind its partnership with Ellen DeGeneres.” GLAAD’s full press release is below.
J.C. Penney Stands with Ellen DeGeneres, Won’t Fire Her as Spokesperson
GLAAD and Thousands Thank J.C. Penney, Raise Awareness for the Lack for
Job Protections for LGBT Americans
New York, NY, February 3, 2012 – GLAAD, the nation’s lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) media advocacy and anti-defamation organization, today applauded J.C. Penney’s decision keep Ellen DeGeneres as their national spokesperson after “OneMillionMoms.com a project of the American Family Association” which is designated as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) demanded that J.C. Penney fire Ellen DeGeneres because she is gay.
In an emailed statement to Yahoo! Shine, J.C. Penney today confirmed it “stands behind its partnership with Ellen DeGeneres.”
GLAAD is continuing to ask supporters to thank J.C. Penney by signing a Change.org action here: www.glaad.org/standupforellen
In less than two days, nearly 25,000 have signed. For more information and a list of states where Americans can be fired for being gay or transgender, visit www.glaad.org/standupforellen
“This week Americans spoke out in overwhelming support of LGBT people and J.C. Penney’s decision not to fire Ellen simply for who she happens to love,” said Herndon Graddick, Senior Director of Programs and Communications at GLAAD. “But while Ellen has the nation on her side, in 29 states today, Americans can still be legally fired just for being gay. Our elected officials should use this incident as yet another example of the support for legal protections for all hard working employees.”
Today, Americans can be fired in 29 states because of their sexual orientation, and in 34 states because of their gender identity.
Blogs including Joe My God, Think Progress, Lez Get Real and Towleroad first broke the news about the American Family Association’s demands to fire Ellen and joined GLAAD in calling on community members and allies to thank J.C. Penney. In an overwhelming display of support, a poll on the Los Angeles Times site shows 94% of readers polled agree that Ellen should not only maintain her post as J.C. Penney’s spokesperson, but call Ellen “a symbol of equality.”
Jeremy Hooper of Good As You notes that “One Million Moms- a project of the American Family Association” has a long history of working to strip LGBT people of vital protections, including actions against Johnson & Johnson after the company extended domestic partner benefits to LGBT employees and Cracker Barrel after the chain added workplace protections for gay and lesbian employees.
THANK YOU P.R. FOR NOT FOLDING TO THESE ONEMILLIONMOMS…I WANT NAMES!!!
Heterosexual married mom here to say: Ellen rules & I’ll be more likely to shop at J.C. Penney’s now.
no jc penny’s u suck it! i’m a man and i promise you that i or my wife will ever come back in your stores as long as you back gays/perverts! you suck it jc penny’s! while your at it put fairy dresses in your store for all the fairies your going to get! your decision is going to cost you millions and i hope you like that bottom line! ellen is trash and now your trash! suck it jc penny’s! john george columbus ohio
As a straight mother of 4 and a JCP associate i will also gladly say SUCK IT to the one million moms!!! Love you Ellen!!
Thank you J.C. Penney for standing strong, and shame on One Million Moms spewing such stupidity. Tolerating the intolerant is a challenge each-n-every day, but it’s refreshing to see a large retailer like J.C. Penney to make such a sound business decision. For what it may be worth, I have instructed my better half to steer her shopping towards J.C. Penney when wife-n-kids are needing to make household purchases. One Million Moms – suck it you silly bitches!
Thank you JC Penny for not caving into ignorant narrow minded hypocritical people. We respect your decision and backbone. Keep up the good work!
Geez, John George, what a hateful thing you are. Have you ever seen a fairy dress? They are just beautiful…all fluffy and frilly. Your daughter will wear one to her prom. Heaven has a very special place for haters such as yourself…it’s the nice red x in front of the Pearly Gates where St. Peter smiles at you, tells you to take your place and get ready for the ride of your life. It’s a very long way down.
I am so grateful that JCP was kind enough to know that any bias against any segment of our society is a bias against all of us. The comment from the very sad man that says he will not shop in JCP anymore breaks my heart and I will certainly pray that somehow love finds its way to his heart.
God is such a loving good God and he made us all. I stand proud and thankful that JCP is so wise and kind and I for one will start shopping there now just because of the stand that they took. I assure you that they will gain far more than they would ever have lost by choosing love and not fear.
Hate doesn’t sell anything ! And I shop at JCPenny because one million stupid people are wrong ! Please stand with Ellen ! She is a terrific human being ! And an inspiration for all of us !
Good job JC Penny, one small step in the right direction, the rest of the country needs to follow.
Oh, and John George, please go back to school and learn proper grammar, no one will take you seriously if you don’t know when to use your and you’re properly.
Thank you J.C.Pennys for not being threatened by a hate group that does nothing but keep the hate going. Ellen is a wonderful soul if she was gay or straight. You couldn’t have gotten a better spokesman. People are begining to see hate groups using God in the name of hate. Let them take their hate else where. And I truely doubt that anyone will be shopping tere in a fairy dress whatever that is or looks like. There are more glbt people out there then you think, so if it gets to the point that you are so good at pointing them out, go to another store. We don’t want anyone dressed in a hate suit in the store that is just fine! She represents all people.
Why did you choose such a vulgar headline for this? JC Penney’s did not say “suck it”. They rejected the one million moms request and I agree with that. Why add fuel to the fire an already volatile issue.
John George, you sound like an in-the-closet congressman.
John George, as a Straight man with a wife and three kids that don’t normally shop at JC Penney’s, we will now make an effort to spend more of our funds there. I am not a fan of Ellen DeGeneres but I despise racists, prejudice and narrow minded people who wish to force their belief system down everyones throat. Furthermore, one does not choose whom to love and for me to hold someone in contempt for their feelings would make me as ignorant and hateful as you are and that is not something I am interested in being.
It would make you a better person to be more open-minded and more human.
John George should suck it. I’m sure he has in some back alley. You are one ignorant sack of dung. I’m not a JCP regular as its not my style. I however will now shop there since they stood by her. They just got my financial backing. One million moms…. Your not enough…. One million moms that unfortunately should not have reproduced. I hate bigots.
good for j c penney. way to not be cowards. SUCK IT, 1 million!
Are you people kidding me! You people that start and belong to groups like this are small minded with nothing else better to do with your time. And you are mothers yourself which in turn means we will have more generations like you,,,,GREAT! Looking forward to it.
Go shop at Walmart then go home and look after your children, that is why you had them…Too much time on your hands go bake some cookies.
John George you suck it! You are a puke. You have a small pathetic brain
JC Penney has done the right thing by standing up for their right to fight ignorance. JC just earned some of my spending money!
Married 25 years….a mom….a teacher…a Christian. As a thank you for standing for inclusion and against ignorance, I will start shopping at jcpenney again. Thank you.
Ben is right , the article headline is inflammatory , creating additional chaos between the two opposing parties. I would go further to say this John George may exist , but not here, possibly by the author “John to create additional bias of one groups beliefs.
Haha – John George, karma has a secret plan for you.
a) your son will be gay
b) or your wife will leave you for a women.
Don’t be so narrow minded, you’re giving idiots a bad name.
I’m relieved that JC Penny’s hasn’t succumbed to hate-mongering brow-beating. I’m going to make it a point to shop with them more often for myself & my family.
I love the authenticity that Ellen demonstrates every day on her show….the outraged mom’s need to get out of their ego and out of the lives of others….we should all aim to be as generous and kind as Ellen!
JCP has done an incredible sift in retail and I love it! Think what a wonderful life it would be if all retail stores made every day coupon day without having to keep up with the coupons!
I do think Ellen is a kind, generous and warm and funny person. I do however feel that there is way too much support of Gay and Lesbian’s being forced on the American public. It is not an alternative lifestyle, it is wrong and shows blasphemy towards our Living God for certain. I would rather be loyal to God, rather than support something against Him. I have nothing against Ellen but I will choose to follow God first and foremost. Jesus is everything!
Oh Paula! Spare us all. Jesus is going to slap the living crap out of you when you hit the pearly gates. God made us all. We accept the fact that many people are born with chemical imbalances in their brains that may cause some mental illness’ issues and/or physical limitations such as missing limbs and/or physical problems such as heart defects, etc. So, riddle me this Batman (or in this case Paula)…..Why can’t some people be born with hormones that work differently than yours? I would challenge you to try to love another female instead of a male! It would be impossible for you to do as your hormonal system doesn’t respond that way. LGBT is the way God made them so WHO ARE YOU TO STATE IT IS WRONG?
Hip, Hip, Horray for JCP….I’ll keep spending my $$$’s there!
It is funny how we all forget that Satan comes as an angel of light. Satan is a liar posing as an angel. Ellen is a nice and kind person, but she is living a blasphemy towards God. Our creator is the boss and I would rather be faithful to the creator of the universe than to start promoting and supporting people that boldly stand against the laws of God. I have no fear of anything any of you have to say as I have Jesus on my side protectiing me. I will always stand with Jesus our Lord and Savior. I am sorry that most of you here gay or straight feel that it is politically correct to support the Gay and Lesbian community and call anyone who does not approve of it a hater. I am a lover of Jesus Christ our Lord and if I love Him, I must know that we are to honor Him and stand by his word.
Just bought my first item from JCPenney in decades because of this. Support the light where-ever you see it manifest!! I’ll shop there first from now on.
Paula, I think Fred Phelps would agree with your feelings on gays. How about you go join him?
First of all, John George, how can you speak for people when you can’t use proper grammar or spell? I don’t want to hear your illiterate views. I always liked JC Penney but it is not convenient so I don’t go often. I also enjoy Ellen DeG because she can be funny without being crude. I am a married woman with a family and I will go out of my way to go to JC Penney and I will continue to support Ellen.
Why do we always have to do things or think things based on if the person is gay or not, the paerson is black or white, the person is man or woman. I guaratee you that some of those ‘Million Moms’ had sex before marrigae, have gotten drunk or are married to one and are on some sort of birth control…jsut with those things I have mention I beleive that their “sainthood” is already down the toilet. For crying out loud, let people live how ever they want, with whoever they want. In the end they are happier than you because of their “true” uplifting life.
Paula if Jesus is everything then a sin is a sin. Love everyone. Thou shall not judge. Do unto others as you wish them to do unto you. STOP OUTCASTING. Follow your Jesus!
“One Million Moms” should change their name to “Two Thousand Ignorant Bitches.” At least then their name would be accurate.
John George, sounds like you have small dick syndrome
Well. I too am a heterosexual male and I have never liked JC Penney more! Love all, judge noone!
@johngeorge….I bet you have two teeth missing and live in a trailer park right?
I’m so glad to hear this!
Please join my anti-One Million Moms Facebook page! https://www.facebook.com/1MillionMomsAgainstOMM
Tyler, Doris and Ronnie. It is you that is the hater here. I never said I hated Ellen, just that I will trust God with what is right or wrong and not be so quick to fly on the bandwagon of homosexual celebrities! God says homosexuality is wrong, then I must trust Him. I am shocked at how many gay and lesbian supporters here are so quick to HATE anyone who supports God and lives trusting Gods word. I am not a part of Phelps church either, and never would be. I merely read the bible and know that God says it is wrong to be homosexual. I will never get used to gay and lesbian marriages being right, as there is something very creepy and perverted about them. It is the destruction of the family unit and how God intended our lives to be. It is a sad shame that the Ellen supporters are thinking they are the boss of God. Jesus said to love one another and yes I do, but I will not go out of my way to continue to support things that are not of God and for that Jesus would know my heart because he said so.
All of you here who are angry with me and choose to disagree with my view are being quite rude. I show love and respect to everyone I meet or know. I just will not go out of my way to support homosexuality and the destruction of the family unit!!!! I will always side with God and trust His commands over man. Have any of you here ever read the bible?? I think not. If you have, you are clearly mocking God with your support of homosexual lifestyles! God rules!!!!!!
Ronnie I will follow my Jesus and show love and respect to everyone. I will however not go out of my way to support or encourage homosexuality!!! God is the boss not you all who love to mock Him.
Ronnie Bruno : Proverbs 12:26 “The righteous should CHOOSE HIS FRIENDS CAREFULLY, for the way of the wicked leads them astray.” (Proverbs 12:26) Need I say more Ronnie Bruno and Tyler and Doris! Being homosexual is wrong according to God and is wicked. I rest my case. Have a nice day everyone and walk in faith.
However, unlike other sins, homosexuality has a severe judgment administered by God Himself. This judgment is simple: they are given over to their passions. That means that their hearts are allowed to be hardened by their sins (Romans 1:24). As a result, they can no longer see the error of what they are doing, and then they go and promote it and condemn others who don’t participate in their sin. So, without an awareness of their sinfulness, there will be no repentance and trusting in Jesus. Without Jesus, they will have no forgiveness. Without forgiveness, there is no salvation. Without salvation, there is only damnation in eternal hell.
I could careless about Ellen’s sexual preference. She is a wonderful human being and has done remarkable things for extremely important causes. THAT, my friends, is what matters!
Suz you are jumping on the bandwagon with everyone else who thinks they are smarter than God. Yes Ellen does nice things for other people, but she is living a lifestyle that God clearly commanded none of us live. I am not impressed by good works when the heart of the person has disobeyed God on the other end. Lots of rights do not make up for turning your back on God to cover up depravity. I am not going to turn my back on God to support things that He has commanded us NOT to do or partake in. I am astonished by the lack of concern for God but the over abundance of support for a Lesbian entertainer that has turned her back on God blatantly.!!!!
Paula, I think you’re turning your back on your God by spending all your time on a gay website. When you talk about this lifestyle that you imagine the Bible describes that we’ve been commanded not to follow, I’m sure trolling gay newspapers is on that imaginary list of yours.
John George I post this disclaimer: you do not represent the views of my lovely city Columbus OH…We are very sad for your views and I choose to forgive you your trespasses.
I am not judging Ellen I am following the commands of our God. That is faithfulness to the living word of God. I wish Ellen no ill will, but will not go out of my way to rally for her depraved lifestyle as God called it.
Paula honey, I was wondering if you eat bacon? Does your husband beat you? Will you sell you children into slavery when money gets tight? Do you own any slaves? All of these are in the Bible so I assume you uphold these laws of God as well. Do you have as much contempt for divorced people as well? Oh, that’s right, the Vatican CHANGED THE BIBLE to say it’s OK to get divorced now. Funny how it’s OK to re-word God’s Law when it’s convenient to do so. And, Marriage and Family were here far longer than your God.
I am spending as much money as I can at JCP from now on.
Isn’t it strange how those that profess hate in the Lord’s name are so blind. Hate is a sin, no matter how it is disguised as God’s word. I know God made man in his image and that his love means everyone, not just a special few. Wake up hate mongers and ask forgiveness from the Lord. He will forgive you as he even loves you. A true mother loves without reservation. You should be ashamed to profess such hatred. The world has suffered for centuries because of hatred disguised as God’s word.
And as far as I know, the only TRUE Laws handed down by God Himself were the 10 Commandments and I don’t recall “Thou shalt hate all fags” being one of them. Nope, just googled it, not there.
Paula… I refer you to 1 Corinthians 14:33-35…are you following that? If not…you’re a hypocrite…and that is also a sin…Job 13:16 …just sayin’…
And to those million moms who have at least a million kids, 100,000 of whom will be gay (statistically)….What will you do when your child tells you they are gay?
You say your Christian but your so full of hate. The clothes you wear were probably made by a gay person. The grocery store you shop at probably have gay workers. If your sons or daughters turned out to be gay will you reject them as well. Of course being gay is the worst “sin” of all. That is why you should move to Iraq and see what civil liberties you have over there.
Allen: If you really knew the bible you would know more than to shoot your mouth off in defense of your blasphemy in supporting gay rights. When Jesus died on the cross there was no more need to sacrifice and have the rituals of the old testament as Jesus was the lamb and the sacrifice in his death for believers sins. A new covenant was made by his sacrifice. The bible says you can get divorced if you have been abused or adultry has been commited.
Nancy: We are not commanded to love everyone as it states in Proverbs 12:26. We are not to hang around with the wicked!!!!! Proverbs 12:26 “The righteous should CHOOSE HIS FRIENDS CAREFULLY, for the way of the wicked leads them astray.”
David: What a better place to be than this website to defend the commands of God. I am bold for God.
David: It is a proper place to be to defend the word of God and be bold for Christ.
Nancy: It is you that is blind as you will take the word of man over the word of God. I find it sad that when I am professing the commands of God about the dangers of the gay life style and upholding His plan, I am considered a hater? I love God and trust his word! I think you are twisted in your statements about what to uphold. I am not sure how worshipping a depraved and clearly forbidden lifestyle that the homosexuals live, takes first place over our creator God! We are not to love the wicked. We are to treat every one with kindness and show love but we need to trust God with His commands and not conform to the wicked ones who lead us down the path to destruction.
Nancy:However, unlike other sins, homosexuality has a severe judgment administered by God Himself. This judgment is simple: they are given over to their passions. That means that their hearts are allowed to be hardened by their sins (Romans 1:24). As a result, they can no longer see the error of what they are doing, and then they go and promote it and condemn others who don’t participate in their sin. So, without an awareness of their sinfulness, there will be no repentance and trusting in Jesus. Without Jesus, they will have no forgiveness. Without forgiveness, there is no salvation. Without salvation, there is only damnation in eternal hell.
Doug I cannot think of anything more in disorder and without peace than the depraved gay lifestyle! The gay community has caused such sadness and disorder in this world it is tragic. Teaching children that they can live an alternative lifestyle is horrific. Marriage is between a man and a women, it always has been and always will be. Seems God is being taken out of everything so that sinners can have their sick ways. I am not sure how you can justify a gal lifestyle when God clearly says NO! Take your argument to God! I cannot show you the way, you must open your eyes.
Nguyen: I must have repeated myself one hundred times to all of you that I am saddened that you will disgard the word of the living God and choose to partake in depraved homosexual lifestyles and call me a hater for support God. I am sick and saddened that you are so blind that you cannot see the point. I hate no one, but I support the word of God on the commands that homosexuality is WRONG!!!!!! God made the rules not me. I do not hate anyone, but I love God. I will not allow ordinary man to sway me in my life. I stand firm that God says homosexuality is wrong! You call me a hater for supporting God. You are the hater !
Jesus is the savior! All of you have a chance to ask Him to forgive you of your sins and do not act on them again, and accept his free gift of eternal life. Open your eyes and find Him. I cannot say this enough. Godspeed
Whether or not you believe homosexuality is a sin based upon your interpretations of the scripture, there are some issues surrounding the treatment of homosexuals of which Christians need to be aware. While the Old Testament focused on rules and consequences, the New Testament offers a message of love. Rather than trying to be God and pass judgement on those individuals, a better option may be to offer a silent prayer. It is not for YOU to judge. When my time comes, it will be God’s decision how I spend Eternity, not yours.
And if Jesus died for all the previously mentioned sins in the Old Testament, wouldn’t Homosexuality fall under that forgiveness? I don’t hate you, I just don’t understand your need to speak for your God, which to me is the epitome of blasphemy.
Homosexuality/Sodomy is an “unnatural” lifestyle. If it were natural, then you would not have to try to brainwash children and weak adults. But it is not natural so therefore you continue with the brainwashing to “convert” and “recruit” because you can’t reproduce.
Do you really believe it’s natural for a man to use his penis for a suppository??? If nothing else, common sense tells you it’s not natural. Each person is free to choose to sin or not to sin. Sin is a choice no matter which sin you happen to choose.
How, exactly, has the gay community caused so much sadness and disorder in the world? By wanting be accepted and respected as equal human beings? It is not I who bring the sadness and disorder, but you. All I am asking for are the same basic human rights that you have and take for granted. If your God tells you I’m not worthy of Heaven then fine, go thru your life with a smug look of selfrightousness on your face knowing that I’m going to Hell, but don’t treat me like I’m less than human while i’m on this planet. You can spend Eternity telling me “I told you so”, although You and I probably won’t be sharing Eternity togeher.
To the bible thumpin hypocrits. Read John 3:16-18. There are no exceptions. Just sayin…
Paula, I am saddened that people choose to believe what is “taught” to them by another human being. Due to my upbringing in the Pentecostal faith, I fought the homosexual battle within myself for many years. I am a healthy, happy lesbian Christian. Like I said, read John 3:16-18. There are no exceptions! My lord and savior is the only one that I will stand before to be judged by on judgement day. NOONE has the authority or power to stand in judgement of anyone!!! NOONE!!!!!
Homosexuality/Sodomy is an unnatural lifestyle and you want it to be accepted as natural. I’ve never thumped on a Bible but since you want to quote the Bible, read Chapter 2 of 2 Peter and learn about false teachers, destructive heresies, immoral sexual behavior, etc.
I didn’t realize homosexuality was synonymous with sterility. How do you explain my husband’s 3 kids, let alone the fact that my parent’s are straight? No one “recruited” me. The simple fact is, when you mix male/female genes you are going to get varying percentages of each, the majority may be considered “normal”, but that doesn’t mean the rest are less than perfect in God’s eyes. How long ago were left handed people considered inferior/evil?
The GLBT is a lost bunch, I know what the Bible says about your lifestyle and you can continue in it if you want but I hate that you attack people for their beliefs. You guys are always accusing the Christians of hate but I believe it is you that is full of hate. We do not agree with what you are doing because of God’s word, doesn’t have anything to do with hate. I know on the FB page all the horrible posts are from glbt community. The Bind cannot see and the deaf cannot hear. I have no respect for Ellen because she lives a life style against God. I will continue to shop at JCP but if given the chance I will let them know that they are now at the bottom of the barrel to me, I know they have zero morals. Its a battle between darkness and light, Christianity and homosexuality have nothing in common. Gays are NOT christian they are anti-christian.
Shirley, Please Read the entire bible. God has mad love for us, but those in rebellion and disbelief of his words wont make it. His word says so.
Besides, Adam & Eve were homosexuals. Think about it, they were genetically perfect with no idea what procreation was and had no reason to know since they were going to live forever. It wasn’t until the Fall that they became sexually aware and created the hybrid known as Man. Homosexuality is God’s perfection and heterosexuality is the abomination. This is the truth the Catholic Church has been hiding for centuries and why they wish to exterminate us. Man wrote the Bible to suit his own ends. Discuss… 🙂
Paula, You’re a hypocrite. Gay people do not condemn others who don’t participate in their lifestyle. How can you be so blind as to not see that this is in fact what YOUR doing? People aren’t calling you a hater because you love God, they’re calling you a hater because you’re spewing hate and condemnation on people who choose to live a different lifestyle than yourself. You should be ashamed if you think God would approve of your excessive display of hatred and using his name as an excuse to do so.
I wish Christians would preach more against the evils of war and militarism than castigating individuals for their private lives. I am reminded of the story of St. Paphnutius, an Egyptian saint of the 4th century. At mass, the priest noted a whore in the congregation and ordered her to leave church as she was a sinful woman. Paphnutius got up and left with her, telling her: “I too am a sinner.”
“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”
Once again, we are NOT attacking you or your beliefs, we realize your brainwashed minds will never be able to comprehend our side of the issue. You are free to believe whatever you want, all we want is to be left alone to pursue the same rights/freedoms you do. You are the ones who cannot keep your religious beliefs to yourselves and out of government. If you don’t like us, FINE, just don’t make our lives difficult by preaching and acting on YOUR hatred. I have my own prejudices that I’m not proud of, but I would never act on them because I know what it feels like to be on the receiving end. They are who they are and I am who I am and no one has the right to judge ANYONE.
Greg I am sorry that my standing on the word of God is so disgusting that it brings for such anger in you that you have to insult me and any Christian. How am I a hypocrite just because I refuse to tolerate the ungodly behavior of homosexuality? Our world is turning away from the family unit at a high rate and homosexuality is being forced on everyone, from gay pride embarrassing parades, where everyone is wearing silly clothing and thongs and practically naked. If that is not distasteful what is? Gays are responsible for the worst plague of this century spreading aids to innocent children and grandparents and moms and dads who got their blood in hospitals and so forth, with no apologies from anyone in the gay community. I am sick to death hearing about wanting more rights and more of this and more of that. For goodness sake I am shocked at the sadness here and the way all the homosexuals and their supporters hate anyone who trusts in God and refuses to support that depraved cause. The bible says it is wrong! What part of that can you not see. I do not hate you but I support God. He is the boss and the final authority.
Allen I am sorry that my standing firm on God’s word causes you to call me smug and self righteous. I cannot understand how standing with God is a bad thing in any way. I am defending my God and his word not judging. I cannot stand by and read stuff like J.C Penny tells One Million moms to suck it and just ignore that smug and self righteous comment!!!!! I do think homosexuals hate and condem anyone who will not support their lifestyle. They are angry the second anyone mentions God.
Norah and Ginny thank you for your courage and support.
Allen do you know how I felt when I first saw a man and a man walking down the street kissing and holding hands? I was 14 years old when I first saw that, and to tell the truth, something inside of me died. I knew the world was messed up, and I was sad. I knew at that age that what I was witnessing was clearly dark and very wrong. My tender heart knew that this was bad. God says homosexuality is wrong and I trust Him. I will never get used to seeing this because the soul cannot comprehend the depravity of it. God has His reasons for commanding us not to act on homosexual desires, so we must trust Him with His divine decisions.
Allen it is amazing that you only know the 10 commandments. The bible is filled with rules to live by but I guess you limit yourself to just the 10 C’s. Shame you cannot read this amazing book all the way through and learn something about our living God. I would hope you would read it in its entirety someday and then you will see who God is and who the Son of God is and the sacrifice He made for those who believe.
One Million Moms is not a gay hate group, it is a group of people who stand by the word of our living God. Shame the homosexuals here have to attack God fearing people who live by the written word. It is even more a shame that gays and gay supporters call Christians haters when we are trusting God’s word and not conforming to the words of men. Open your eyes before you call God lovers haters. Spin doctors here in the gay community for sure.
Paula: prove to me that God exists. Quoting from a book is not proof. What someone else said or didn’t say is not proof. Prove to me, conclusively, with documented evidence that God exists. If you cannot produce such proof, then every single argument you have presented is baseless. Your move.
James, you proove to me that He does not exist and then I will proove to you He does!
Paula: I hold you personally responsible for these deaths because of the hatred that you and your ilk spew. I hope your conscience is clear. I’m sure it is. But here’s the post about last month’s deaths of LGBT teens that were a result of bullying from kids who listen to your crap and take it as a license to harass other kids to death. Yes, you and the hatred that you’ve posted caused these deaths. Bet you’re “pro-life” too. I’m sure you’ll have some oblivious comment about loving everyone and hating the sin but you’re a murderer.
Sound extreme? Sorry, but I just got off the phone with a teen who needs to hang in there another 2 years before he can move out and get away from your sort of religious torture.
https://dallasvoice.com/lgbt-teen-suicide-continues-10100521.html
You’re rigth, that was rude, I apologize. But then you turn around and throw it back at me and JCP. This is the problem. Neither side can see the other’s point of view. You don’t want to hear about the gay community’s view of how the world should be anymore than I want to hear the Religious community’s view on how the world shoud be. So how do we compromise. If we could answer that, we could stop any war and have World Peace.
I believe in God. Not sure about Christ, so maybe I should be Jewish. Anyway, I believe in God. I fully expect to stand before Him as He passes Judgement over me. But I will also expect some answers, like “why was I born this way? Why ME!? Why the Hell did I have to suffer through my life because you said it was OK to hurt me”. I WAS BORN THIS WAY!!! I CAN NO SOONER CHANGE MY SEXUAL PREFERENCE ANY MORE THAN YOU CAN. THAT MEANS GOD GAVE ME THIS “CURSE” AND I WANT TO KNOW WHY! I have lived a good life. Friends, Family, job. I am a good person. All I want is for you to stop telling me I’m not. God is MY only Judge!
That’s sad. When I see straight people kissing and holding hands I feel happy for them. Not because you think it’s the way it should be but because it makes me happy to see people, any people, in Love. It gives me Hope for the Future.
Paula: it is not possible to prove the negative. If you cannot prove the existence of something, then in reality it does not exist. The existence of “God” cannot be proven, thereby proving non-existence. I’ve presented my proof, now you can present yours. And remember, proof requires evidence. Evidence is an inherent characteristic of factualism.
As far as I know, The Ten Commandments were the only actual Laws sent by God on stone tablets for Man to follow. The rest are just “laws” you were told were from God as heard by the storyteller. They are the “laws” that cause so much hatred among Man. Ten Commandments and the 7 Deadly Sins, what more do you need?
Allen: you stated that “Neither side can see the other’s point of view.” That is not entirely correct. In the case of the bible thumpers and religious zealots, they simply choose not to see anyone’s point of view except for their own. There are probably some cases where certain individuals are simply incapable due to their limited intelligence quotients, but by and large those are few and far between. These religious fanatics believe they are right, and the mere suggestion that they might be incorrect is frightening to them. So much, in fact, that they are not able to think rationally.
James and Paula, one word. Faith. Paula has the faith that God exists just as you have the faith (proof, evedence, whatever you want to call it, it’s still having the faith in something) that He doesn’t. And James, you proved my point. You take your statement to me and replace “bible thumper”, etc with “homosexual” and you can say the same about us.
Paula: Hey guess what! I am a proud lesbian mother og two but most of all I am a Christian. I walk daily in the word of our Lord and Savior and I know where I will be spending eternity. In fact I know my seat is being prepared as I right this. And it will not be based on who I chose to spend my life with but that I made God and Jesus Christ the head of my home and of my childrend lives. My oldest infact testifies all over the world to teens the power of Jesus Christ and what is the truth in families like yours that spew hate and teach your children to hate. My Bible states that HATE=MURDER!
One Million Moms needs to learn how to parent their own children and stop worrying about what the rest of the country should or shouldn’t be doing. Stop teaching your children hate and intolerance. Your website and ones like it are appalling. Why don’t you teach your children to think for themselves instead of “do as I do and do as I say”. You can’t control them forever and most of them will grow up resenting it (and you) anyways. Grow up and get with the program and learn how to accept everyone for who they are. I accept you for what you believe in but I will not let you control me or my household by spewing hate messages. That’s what I consider your site, a hate site, period. What’s going to happen when one of you own children grows up and realizes they are gay (it will happen to some of you guaranteed). Are you going to hate them too?
There is a great schism in what America wants and what it’s being fed. We need health in America not debauchery. Homosexuals, I found, appreciate not being put down AND not to be lied to either. Promoting ungodly lifestyles actually has the affect of waking people up to the truth — people really don’t want it. There’s a need to share honestly. First Corinthians 6:18 states, ” Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.” That’s truth.
James Simmons I am shocked at how you and other here twist my words so you can insult God. I believe in God and I believe he left us the bible as the rules to live by here on earth. I am astonished that you call me a fanatic on the basis that I choose to obey God’s laws. I am not sure I wanted to respond to such a blind person as yourself because you are just still not getting it. God is the boss. I am a believer in God. I choose to trust God and read the bible and learn about what are amazing creator has to say about life and what to do. I am called bad names only because I choose to share God’s word with others for their own good, but it only gets me attacked by people who think they are God and choose to turn their back on Him. I think man was created to be with a women. The sexual parts fit perfectly and they can procreate. Children were intended to have both a mother and a father. I am sorry if my trusting God that homosexuality is wrong is something that you choose to blame me for.
David Taffet: Your comments and accusations are totally outrageous and completely out of line.
Sorry, Paula, you murderer. It’s intolerant bullies like you that cause kids to kill themselves. Your intolerance is disgusting and my comments are not out of line. Your disrespectful hate speech is what’s out of line.
I have a religious question for you. Most fundamentalists have overwhelming respect for Israel. The United States has laws that are independent of religious law because the United States is NOT a Christian country. It’s a country with a majority of Christians. But Israel is a Jewish country and its legal system relies on the Bible for guidance. It’s Supreme Court judges are also Biblical scholars who actually have read the Bible in its original Hebrew, not your mistranslation. So tell me why Israel recognizes same-sex marriage.
Nie: you cannot be a double minded person. You are either Christian and follow the word of God or you are a homosexual lady and are living a depraved lifestyle according to God. DO NOT CONTINUE TO GIVE STUPID EXCUSES HOW YOU CAN DO BOTH. YOU ARE MESSING UP YOUR KIDS.
James: you stated that “Neither side can see the other’s point of view.” That is not entirely correct. In the case of the bible thumpers and religious zealots, they simply choose not to see anyone’s point of view except for their own.
In response to the above: it is not my point of view, it is Gods! He made the rules but you would rather blame me and other Christians instead. How totally childish and shameful you are.
Terri I am saddened that because I support the living word of God I am to you a hater. You make no sense.
Allen I am not brainwashed. I love God and defend His word. I think homosexuals must be brainwashed then. The acts are depraved and wrong in Gods eyes. Read the scripture. I am sorry to put the truth on the table.
GINNY you are such a F***ING HYPOCRITE, IT’S FUNNY YOU DON’T EVEN REALIZE IT! You wrote–‘We do not agree with what you are doing because of God’s word, doesn’t have anything to do with hate.’ but then you wrote–‘I have no respect for Ellen because she lives a life style against God.’ When you don’t respect something, you are DISRESPECTFUL meaning you are hateful, spiteful, angry, toward something that has value in this world. you are so blinded by hatred that you can’t even realize that. And remember, all the teachings of GOD were created by man, and you are following the logic of mans’ thinking. we are human and it is ok to feel differently about things, but to try to pass off your hatred of gay people by saying GOD SAID IT, SO BE IT is wrong. I think GOD would be pissed off if somebody that was made in his image, hated somebody else that was made in his image. As a father, wouldn’t that make him mad that his children couldn’t get along?!?!?
Paula, you know nothing about me or my children. My children are very well adjusted, church going, Jesus loving kids and will continue to live under the guidence of my love and the love of God and Jesus Christ. You my dear are a hypocrite. It states in the bible he who is without sin can cast the first stone and I know not one person who is without sin. I’m going to challenge you……I am going to ask you to find and watch the movie “For the Bible Tells Me So” and then you tell me where you get off telling me that I can’t be a Christian and a lesbian. My children will grow up knowing love, diversity, acceptance and compassion. What will your kids grow up knowing….ignorance, hate and bigotry. I’m thinking my kids have a better chance in their situation. Also just a thought, you keep saying Gods rules Gods the boss but your the only one not quoting scriptures so maybe this hatred you have was taught with no real basis.
BTW…..I’m pretty sure you won’t be there when I meet my maker so who are you to question my faith and tell me I am not a Christian or what’s in my heart? Do not JUDGE me it is not your right!
Paula. Again, prove to me that God exists. Your “belief” does not prove anything. That is an opinion, not a statement of fact. If you can prove to me, conclusively, that God exists, then I will back down and concede that you are correct. You have made all sorts of comments, judgements, statements and declarations about “God”, but so far you have substantiated nothing. You also accused me of insulting God. Just because you say something does not mean that it is fact. Let’s see you substantiate that statement. Prove to me that this actually happened.
James you have still not proven to me that God does not exist. When you do, I will prove He does!
Nie: Matthew 7:21-23 not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father, which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”
Nie you do not know Jesus or you would not be living and teaching your children blasphemy in living your homosexual lifestyle. You are deceiving them. You are confusing them.
This verse goes to Ellen too: Matthew 7:21-23 not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father, which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”
Ellen thinks all her good works are going to get her into heaven, but she is deceived. It is not by works we are saved but by accepting the gift of salvatin by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Paula, it looks like you missed this earlier comment. Let me know if there is anything you do not understand or that you need me to explain to you, and I’ll do my best to make things a little clearer. “Paula: it is not possible to prove the negative. If you cannot prove the existence of something, then in reality it does not exist. The existence of “God” cannot be proven, thereby proving non-existence. I’ve presented my proof, now you can present yours. And remember, proof requires evidence. Evidence is an inherent characteristic of factualism.”
Paula…my oldest is traveling all over the world testifying to others about Jesus Christ. My children are not confused they are very happy and well adjusted children and the grandchildren of a church pastor so you don’t tell me how my children are…..you are closed minded again I ask if you believe you have a right to determine who is a zChristisn and who isn’t….open your mind and watch the movie “For The Bible Tells Me So” before you go judging others. I am a child of God and of faith and it takes more than a few choice people to try and take that away from me.
James….just for the record and so you know I am not on Paulas side by any means but I ask you to just think about this in the simplest of ways. Man made the technology and the life sustaining things we feel as humans we must have but man did not make man. So if man did not make man then the only logical answer would be God or other higher powers that people believe in had to have. We are not made up of parts like metal we have life. I know you asked Paula for the answer but she’s too busy judging us for loving who wr love she can’t come up with a logical answer for you. I hope I helped honey. Now I’m off to continue being a Christian LESBIAN mother of two.
James it appears that I have won this as you cannot disprove God’s existence. I am sorry that you cannot come up with proof for me. You have said nothing to prove this to me. I would not trust anything you could possibly say either as you prefer a depraved lifestyle over goodness. Have a great day.
I am in no way depraved. You are refusing to open your heart to the truth. You know nothing about me except the part you hate to the central core of your being. Just know this it could be me or some one like me who could have to save your life some day…..then will you praise and thank me or continue your wrath of hatred and intolerance?
Nie: there is no “side” to take. Paula is a religious extremist, made obvious by her highly emotional and antagonistic responses to my rational and objective inquiries. She finds comfort in her belief that a supernatural and unidentifiable supreme being is responsible for…well, whatever she feels God is responsible for, so far be it for me to attempt to deny her that belief. As the old phrase goes, “Convinced against one’s will, of the same opinion still.” Whether she is correct or whether she is simply living out a story book fantasy is something that will likely never be known–by anyone. In the meantime, for her own emotional well being, I am going to allow her to blissfully and peacefully continue her spiritual walk down the fantasy-laden yellow brick road of life. One cannot reason with emotion, therefore any intelligent or intellectual discussion is not possible in this situation.
Well said James. Truth is I don’t know how extreme she really is…..she has only posted one quote from the Bible and it was nothing based on homosexuality so I am lead to believe that she is just another ingnorant bigot spewing the nonsense she was taught as a child by her equally ignorant parents. Just my observation.
Nie God hates your homosexuality not me. I am here to defend the word of God that the homosexual community seems to attack on a regular basis. Thank goodness there are some people who have the fear of God in them and are willing to call it as it is. The homosexual lifestyle is against Gods laws. How can you argue with the word of God? I guess your way is to take it out on me. I am outta here, it is getting tiresome.
Nie I am sad that you ignore the word of God and call me a hater, when God made the rules about life. Homosexuality is wrong according to God. Take your argument to God and stop being such a coward.by attacking Christians.
Nie I am sad that you ignore the word of God and call me a hater, when God made the rules about life. Homosexuality is wrong according to God. Take your argument to God and stop being such a coward.by attacking Christians. I have quoted other verses but the link has been only showing the last twenty or so. If you need verses I will provide them.
Leviticus 18:22
Leviticus 18:22
Yes, homosexuality is a sin. Leviticus 18:22 reads, “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.” That is stated as plainly and clearly as you can get. The Bible commands us that we are not to have intercourse with people of our same sex. It is not only a sexual sin, but it is an abomination (something that is impure and illicit in God’s eyes).
The verse does not say that homosexuality is okay if you are in a loving, committed relationship. It states that you shall not do it, period! We find a similar verse in Leviticus 20:13. It reads, “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.”
Do not ever say that i am not a Christian and i do not attack others for being Christians. Read the verses before and after. it also states that its an abomination to eat shrimp, it is an abomination to eat a rabbit. Abomination is meant to address a ritual wrong not immorral. Do you think that people who eat shrimp should be put to death? Anyone working on the Sabbath should be put to death according to the Bible, are ypu going to kill them or call law enforcement? Isnt that violating Gods commandment of thouthou shall not kill. Its based on interpretation and you see it your way and I see it mine. But you have no right to tell me that im not a Christian. I know i wont be left behind so you keep googling verses to try and continue to try and bring me down. I know where im gong but people filled with hate wont. be behind me.
What are you doing on the Dallas Voice page anyway. Did you seek out a GLBT magazine just to come and preach hatred and ignorance. I mean if your going to post here at least have enough respect to try and learn something.
Nie: the rituals and sacrifices of lambs and so forth of the old testament are for many centuries no longer valid, as when Christ died on the cross, there was a new covenant, and the old sacrifices and rituals were no longer needed Jesus is the sacrificial lamb. Seems you are the one that hates God because you do not like anyone who stands by the laws of God. It is God you hate not me. I am a lover of God and I will side with God all the way. I am tired of the homosexuals constantly saying that they are Christians. You cannot be both no matter how you look at it.
Nie: Seems you are trying your hardest to trip me up and make me look foolish just because I believe and honor God’s word. I think your anger is because you know your mixed up and are caught up in a terrible lifestyle that is blasphemy against God. I think you should try to see where your anger is really coming from. Search your heart and ask God to help you. He never sleeps and is always here for you.
Here is the new testemant statement against Homosexuality: “Be not deceived, neither …abusers of themselves with mankind [Gk: arsenokoites-sodomites/male bed partners/male-liers] shall inherit the kingdom of God” (I Cor. 6:9-10).
Romans 1:26-27
New International Version (NIV)
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
Nie: Homosexuality is a vile act as stated above from Romans 1:26-27. Old testament and New Testament state that it is WRONG. Do not call yourself a Christian and still think your lifestyle is acceptable and alternative when it is vile simple and plain. You are in a relationship that you need to get out of. You are living in sin in front of your innocent children. Find the way and courage through Christ to change your life and leave. I am done here.
Nie: I found this site and was shocked at how arrogant the title was, as if the gays and Lesbians were cheering over their so called victory with J.C. Penny and the million moms. I was taken back by the title being so offensive and rude. I was here to defend the moms and the word of God. I do not care what anyone thinks of me being here as I love God and will not let Him be mocked by you or anyone else.
Just for the record i am not angry or do i hate you or anyone with an opinion. What bothers me is that you sit in judgemenr of me without even trying to understand. My kids are incredible and are not confused. They see and understand more about the human condition and the Bible then most kids these days and are being raised in a loving Christian home. You will not break my spirit or my faith. I AM A CHRISTIAN no matter how you spin it.
Paula: “I am outta here, it is getting tiresome.” Then she posts 10 more times. Now it appears she’s the only one posting. Next thing you know, she’ll be replying to her own posts and arguing with herself. Talk about getting yourself worked up…wow. I’d hate to have to deal with her in real life! She takes drama to a whole new level. (I think she’s a frustrated lesbian trying to fight her own urges, but that’s just my opinion.) Well, I am outta here. This is getting tiresome. Oh! I almost forgot. Thanks for the entertainment, Paula. You are one amusing chick, even if you are a little neurotic. (And if you didn’t have latent homosexual tendencies, I seriously doubt you would be visiting this site. Just saying.)
Way to go JC Penny, way to go Ellen, and way to go all my gay, bi, trans, transg…..friends. Paula take your bible and shove it up your stupid god fearing ass. Yup I said it. No not very christian, but look in the mirror and what you are spewing. You are an example of pure ignorance, and basically have none of the qualities that a real christian has. My god, has no tolerance for people like you or anyone you surround yourself with. My god laughs at you, thinks you are pathetic, and relishes in the fact that you are so small minded that you cannot even grasp reality and what it is to be a true christian. so there…….
equality is for all no matter race gender religion S.O . we live in the USA, where people can warship anything from Christianity and Islam…
oh wait? you can’t? Even though the people who settled here first were people to practice their religion FREELY?! oh well…
the point is that equality is not equal unless everyone is able to do it equally. Saying a person can’t love this person while your able to love someone is just as bad as saying you can’t practice this religion but I can practice my religion. I could go on and spring loads and loads of hateful truth about many a times this has ruined and destroyed the world and left a scar on it that will never be healed, but unlike any homophobic in this chat, I am not ignorant, nor hateful…and just so you know, I forgive you hateful people who think its alright to harm hurt and insult Gays lesbians transgenders transsexuals ect ect ect to the point that they feel think can’t be on this earth or harm themselves. Because unlike you, I’ve seen it first hand with my friends and love ones. and I forgive you, because you know what, I accept love and kindness and cheerfulness and peace and truth and equality. Not hate or ignorance, or pain
Leviticus also calls for the death of children who curse their parents, adulterers and men who sleep with their step-mothers and daughters-in-law (which is odd considering sleeping with your actual sister just gets you ostricized). Do you condone and call out for these punishments as well? And who is supposed to carry this out, considering “Thou shalt not kill”. And once again, if Jesus died for all sins, doesn’t that include mine? You say you don’t have to perform cleansing rituals because Jesus is the Lamb, but all those rituals are in Leviticus as well, so why are you still holding on to this one?
And Nie, I agree with Paula that you shouldn’t call yourself a Christian. Why would you want to be associated with them? What the world needs is a new religion born from the good points of all religions and one that adheres to the basic principles of Human equality. After all, how many centuries passed before someone decided to come up with the idea of one true God? Not to mention all the fragmented Christian religions started because someone didn’t like someone else’s interpretation. Why can’t we do the same? I guarantee there would be a lot of converts who are tired of being associated with these radicals.
Sorry, I shouldn’t have said radical. I’m the radical for insighting change.
OMG, and then we can start a Holy War to eradicate us of these blasphemous Heathens and say it was all done for our God, LOL!
I’m a guy that likes girls & 1 of the girls I like is Ellen. She’s a nice gal. These million moms who hate on Ellen are a bunch of bigots. They’ve picked on one of the wrong persons because a lot of people, both gay & straight people, like Ellen. She’s funny, harmless, & nice. She’s not a pig like bigot million moms are. Million moms may be violating tort law since they’re interfering with her job contract. You’re allowed to protest something. You’re allowed to try to get someone fired, but you’re NOT allowed to try to get someone fired for an ILLEGAL REASON. If there are gender-orientation laws in the location where Ellen & Pennys contracted then million moms attempts to get her fired may be an illegal interference with her employment contract. I think she should talk to a lawyer & if million moms are violating her rights she should sue them just like african americans have sued white KKK members. Winning these types of legal actions against bigots is a way to reduce bigotry.
It’s unamerican to try to get someone fired from his/her job for no good reason. We are in a bad economy & these million moms are spoiled evil haters to want to cause another human being to lose her job over her harmless personal sex life. Ellen does not have sex with minors. Ellen is not breaking any laws. Million moms are bigotted to the point of pure evil
Paula I’m heterosexual. I want you to know that you are definitely a hate-filled, tea-party bigot and your god does not exist.
I won’t be shopping there. Sorry, but normalizing the abnormal is not Ok for my family.
NOJCP: Shopping at JCPenney is “abnormal” but reading this gay newspaper is “normal?” Cool.
I don’t read gay newspapers unless you count the one that are in your face all over NYC. However this page is linked on FB by lots of people apparently. So, now you can go back to reading your Gay Times and not worry why I am commenting here..
Was just welcoming you to our site and think it’s cool that you’d read the gay press but not shop at JCP. And I know what you mean about NYC. I grew up there. Much happier here in liberal Dallas.
NOJCP: Does your family also condemn physically and mentally handicapped, vertically challenged, obese, non-Christian and any other “abnormal” human being? What, exactly is your definition of abnormal?
Oh Allen…I do like the way you think. All though I do consider myself a Christian I could never adhere to Paulas standards of a Christian…one filled with hate, ignorance and intolerance because I myself are not filled w that kind of evil. God sees yyour heart and hers is black. She’s quick to judge us but by coming on the Dallas voice page was cowardly on her part. I’m sure most of us don’t go on her Westboro ” God hates fags ” website to preach to them about how being filled with hate is too against Gods laws.
NOJCP…I’m sure JcPenney’s is real worried about you not shopping with them. I’m guessing the clearance rack at the local truck stop is more your style.
NOJCP…I’m sure JcPenney’s is real worried about you not shopping with them. I’m guessing the clearance rack at the local truck stop is more your style.BTW…read the Gay Times you may learn something.
Allen, are you saying that being gay is a disease or a handicap? Just what is you are trying to express? I am saying everyone has a right to their choices. My choice is not to embrace LBG as “normal” adult relationships for examples to my children.
nie, I’m sure you have no idea where i shop, how i look, or what i dress like, but personal attacks make you look foolish, so it’s kinda fun.
JC Penny has crappy clothes anyway. Just sayin’….
Allen: the new testament also speaks of the wrong of homosexualityRomans 1:26-27
New International Version (NIV)
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
The old testement rituals of sacrifice were out when Christ died on the cross. A new covenant was made and Christ was the sacrifical lamb, no need to sacrifice anymore with rituals. BUT the laws of homosexuality continue to be mentioned in the new testament. Any way you look at it it is wrong in God’s eyes.
NOJCP thanks for your support and courage to post here. I agree with what you wrote and thank you for it. It is a jungle here. Lots homosexuals attacking me calling me a hater for standing firm on God’s word and protecting our children from the depraved lifestyle of the gay and lesbian community. Children are innocent and should not be subjected to this kind of stuff, as it is very wrong in God’s eyes.
I can keep posting all I want when something you all say needs to be addressed. Your homosexual lifestyle will never be accepted because God says so. I think you know that because deep down inside you know it is depraved.
Nie, that wasn’t nice. It was freakin’ hysterical, but it still wasn’t nice. And NOJCP, you hafta admit it was funny and probably would have laughed at loud if it wasn’t directed at you 🙂 I’m sure you don’t shop at truck stops and even if you did, that’s nothing to be ashamed of, you are a Human Being and deserve respect (unless you shop there because you’re a heroine-addicted whore and you’ve spent all your money on drugs, in which case you need to seek help for addiction).
I was never a big fan of Ellen but I am NOW. I stand up for equality. The only thing that bothers me about this situation are the pseudo christians who hide behind the bible with their hate. God did say love thy neighbor as thyself. I dont see much neighborly love from paula. Paula you should be ashamed of yourself!
I think I’m on to something here…If we can write a Bible of our own we can say that homosexuals are the true Children of God because we only use heterosexual intercourse for procreation, which is what God had intended it for. Since heterosexuals use intercourse for pleasure they are an abomination, but should be treated as equal human beings since Damnation is God’s decision, not Man’s. Or we could just kill them so they don’t keep growing in numbers and take over our world. Do you see where I’m going with this people….
Adam & Eve were ASEXUAL! They were each created by God to tend the G.o.E.. They knew nothing of sexuality since they were each their own set of genetic makeup, therefore would only use intercourse for procreation.Unfortuneately their offspring were born with both sets of genes, therefore knowing of eavh others sexuality. This meant the possibility of equal numbers of homo and heterosexual children. This worked for a while until the heathen heteros started having intercourse for pleasure and having more hetero children than homo children. Meanwhile the pious homos were only using i
Paula, In a comment you made on Sunday February 5, you said & I quote: “However, unlike other sins, homosexuality has a severe judgment administered by God Himself. This judgment is simple: they are given over to their passions. That means that their hearts are allowed to be hardened by their sins (Romans 1:24). As a result, they can no longer see the error of what they are doing, and then they go and promote it and condemn others who don’t participate in their sin. So, without an awareness of their sinfulness, there will be no repentance and trusting in Jesus. Without Jesus, they will have no forgiveness. Without forgiveness, there is no salvation. Without salvation, there is only damnation in eternal hell.”
Now forgive me if I am wrong, but is that not exactly what you are doing; “giving over to your passions, that means that their hearts are allowed to be hardened by their sins. As a result, they can no longer see the error of what they are doing, and then they go and promote it and condemn others who don’t participate in their “sin.” You are doing exactly what you posted homosexuals are supposedly doing, but because you are doing it in God’s name it is not a sin. I do not see homosexuals going out trying to “recruit” people into being gay. I have many gay friends and family and no one is trying to recruit me.
I love Ellen, always have even before she came out. I like JCPenny’s. Haven’t shopped a lot there but will start doing more.
Have a good day.
got cut off…intercourse for procreation, as God had intended. The homos knew of their homo brothers blasphemy, but accepted the homos as equals, born of the same Mother & Father, but chastised them for being immoral and using intercourse for pleasure. Soon the heteros got tired of being persecuted for being born this way and decided they were in fact the chosen ones because they may have sinned, but there were more of them so God must have wanted them to be superior. So they came up with a new set of God’s rules, but decided that they needed to eradicate the homos so that they would not rise up and take back what is rightfully theirs. OMG, it’s the story of Cain & Abel!!
The pious homos continued to procreate in God’s name and loved their children equally, homo and hetero, since they were born of the same mother and father. But the heathen heteros grew to despise their pious brothers, so much so that they murdered their own children for being born homo. Thus, when the time was right and there were fewer and fewer homos, the heteros rose up and decreed their Bible the one true Bible and all homos must die. I HAVE EXPLAINED THE ORIGIN OF THE BIBLE! Now, if we could only get back what is rightfully ours….
“Soon the heteros got tired of being persecuted for being born this way and decided they were in fact the chosen ones because they may have sinned, but there were more of them so God must have wanted them to be superior”, Little realizing that it was their immorality that gave them the upper hand. ORIGINAL SIN!
We are not the chosen ones either. Both homo and hetero were put on this earth to look after it, equally. It is the hetero who disobeyed God’s Law and continued to give in to his debauchery. According to many religions there are only a certain number of souls going to Heaven and we’re already maxed out. Would it have been so, had we not given in to hetero temptation?
Many would call me a blasphemer for these words, but I say unto you..NO! It is YOU who are the blasphemer, using your disgusting heterolifestyle (for it is you who CHOOSE to have intercourse for pleasure, whereas WE only use it to procreate, therefore you are the ones with a lifestyle) to condemn my righteousness. You may have been born hetero, but you CHOOSE to live your sinful lives and are therefore condemned to Hell.
The fear espoused by some of the posters here is repugnant! Why do fundamentalist “Christians” think they are doing anyone “good” by trying to create fear and distrust? I left the church as a teenager because I could see the damage and hypocrisy. I agree with David Taffet; the garbage slung by groups like the American Family Association, etc. is the number one cause for the difficulties experienced by our GLBT brothers and sisters. When my son was a child, he came home from school and said that someone said the very worst curse word he knew of…the “f-word”. After some discussion, he went away knowing that FUCK is not the worst f-word. FAG is.
But we would still let you live your lives as equals, because Damnation is God’s judgement ONLY and we are all born from the same Mother and Father. If you want to sin, that’s between you and God, who am I to judge.
Heteros are always telling us it’s our fault for war, famine, disease, etc, but in fact, it’s their fault because the heteros have continued to have intercourse for pleasure and overcrowded the planet. Had we done it God’s way there would be fewer people and we would have progressed at a slower rate. Just look at the progress in the last 2 millenia vs the past few hundred millenia before that. All this growing exponentially is because of the hetero sin. Granted, I wouldn’t be able to use a computer right now if they didn’t, but we as a group of people also shouldn’t be in this century either. Think about it.
War is fought over land belonging to one group being taken by another because the attacking side has grown overpopulated and needs to expand. Famine occurs because there isn’t enough food to feed everyone. Less people would have meant more food to go around. Disease occurs when large amounts of people are crammed into a confined area, such as a city. All these might not have occured had heteros learned to control their urges. Just getting it out there…Jesus did say there would be second coming…who’s to say he’s not already here and gay 😉
That last line was JUST a joke, so don’t start.
Some might find the comment on war, famine and disease over-simplified, and it is. But do you at least get the point?!
Allen…all I have to say is I love you. I’m pretty sure that you have thrown Paula off her hating path and she is currently hatching out her perfectly played response by quoting the same thing over and over again. Most of which I’m sure she has googled in an effort to try and continue her wrath of ignorance and hate. Just for the record Paula and NOJCP…..according to Gods law that you keep hiding behind….HATE=MURDER! And based upon how many young people we have lost to ignorance and hate…you are infact the true muderers of these children. Remember these kids have parents that love them and now must morn them because children growing up in families such as yours have bullied them to death.
nie, there’s no use in slinging the same rhetoric back at them, they are too far gone. We need to make them see the error of their ways by reversing their rhetoric back to them. If we can take their Bible and turn it around to be in our favor, then the more moderate minded like us will see the truth in Equality. Whose to say my version of the Bible isn’t the true version just because I haven’t written it down? Oh wait….I did write it down. So who’s to say which is truth and which is fiction? In a few millenia it may all be reversed because of a few printed words written a long time before by nobody in particular, just your average man.
I bet she’s on the phone to the Vatican right now saying “they’re on to us!” LOL (sorry :))
What confuses me about some of these God fearing Bible quoting “Christians” is that you say your God is all powerful, all knowing and is infallible. If you accept that God makes no mistakes and that he made us all in HIS image then by just that alone you should see that God doesn’t want you to hate. That being homosexual is something that God has allowed. Therefore God accepts and loves ALL of his children. Even the ones that spout hate towards their neighbor. Isn’t that in the bible…. love thy neighbor.
I am married to a man and have a wonderful 2 yearold daughter. I will teach her that everyone is different, but everyone is loved by God. I am agnostic, I do not follow anyone religion, and religion is not what Jesus taught. He taught basic kindness, love and acceptance even for the ones that hurt and hate you. That is Christ’s teachings.
But then again what do I know, I am just a woman made in his image.
Danika, It is written in their Bible therefore they have to take it as truth. I understand that. We cannot change that, except to write a new Bible in our favor so they might understand us and repent their evil ways. Like I said, it may be a millenia or two, but the seed is planted. How many people do you need to start a religion?
Allen you should not be kidding about what you are saying: You think you are being funny, but you are messing with a dangerous thing even suggesting about writing your own bible or adding or taking away things from God’s word. Be very careful what you say, I have warned you, it is not funny. May God have mercy on your soul.
The bible says:
“If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book: and if anyone takes away, of the words of of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part in the book of life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book”. Revelation 22: 18-19
I wasn’t trying to be funny. I may have used a little humor to lighten the mood, but I was not being funny. Besides, you’ve completely missed the point, as expected.
And remember, Christ’s proclamations didn’t go over so well with the Jews, and look at Him now. Plus the fact that various factions of Christian religion have been rewording the Bible for centuries, once again asserting my claim that it is heteros sinning against God that are the problem, not we pious homos.
Allen, you should know you can’t talk logically to a ” Westboro” wanna be and expect them to get it. That, Paula, is not hate it is frustration…just for the record.
And you have the nerve to tell me it’s not OK to add/subtract from the Bible when the entire New Testament is an addition to the true Bible. Funny how it was OK to create the New Testament and at the end say “but don’t add or subtract anything else”. Perhaps we need a “New, New Teastament”. The sin of your Arrogance has been exposed and God has shown his disappointment in you for your blasphemy. The further you travel down the path of your so-called “righteousness” the worse it will be for the rest of us Faithful on Earth. Forgive them, Father, for they are unaware of the sins they commit and their hearts have been hardened by their sinning, AMEN.
Is anyone else reading these? Maybe I need to reach out to a larger audience. The Internet & I may have come too soon as a result of the hetero sin, but it means I can reach a greater audience in less amount of time. No need for Apostles spreading my word and getting it mixed up, you can come right to the source :). Millenia has been reduced to YEARS! It’s just a matter of time now. And no, I don’t consider myself the second coming, but who knows what people will say in a couple hundred years ;).
I am not a WBBC wannabe, just a lover of God. Nie even you are covering for Allen’s blasphemy towards God because you know he is comepletely out of line daring God like that. I hope you all here will know that I love God and support the word of God that is all. I came here because your so called victory with JC Penny had the most offensive title and I was tired of seeing God fearing people mocked and trashed. I wanted to stand up for the families of the world and to stand up for the word of God. I am sorry that you all have nothing better to do but attack me and them and call us haters when in reality no one hates Ellen and no one hates homosexuals, I hate the sins of both. Godspeed and goodbye
Paula, cut the love the sinner crap. You hate us. We get it. Your words of hate don’t match that “love the sinner” bullshit so just stop it.
It’s called Transference and Deflection. You transfer you sins onto us and then redirect the anger you feel for yourself at us in order to deflect the focus away from you. It’s been going on for so long that you think it is “normal”. I am here to tell you we are on to your ways and we shall bring you into the light and expose you for the sinning hypocrites you are. All while accepting you as equal human beings in God’s eyes, only to be judged by Him.
Sin all you want, but you will NOT use me as your scapegoat anymore.
And that is exactly what all these so called Christians do. Instead of focusing on themselves and their sins they attack those of us who they quote “don’t follow Gods laws”. This is why I can say I am a Christian….God knows what’s in my heart and its not hiprocrasy and hate. I have love for all of Gods people even those such as Pauls who feel it is necessary to spread ignorance and hate.
I bet their are Christains out there abusing their kids. I bet their are Christains out there cheating on their spouses. I bet their are Christains out there playing with little children. Get my point
I will also deliberately shop at J. C. Penney because of their integrity in choosing Ellen as a spokesperson firstly, and then because they didn’t let bigotry win over their integrity. I commend the decision-makers at Penney’s. And I admire them.
Why is it that speaking about my beliefs on how God exists in my heart is heresy (“daring God”), but you speaking out on behalf of your heart’s beliefs is righteous? To me you are the heretic, not I.
I really hope people are getting the point of all this…..
Allen and David Taffet you are both two of the most evil mean and lost souls I have ever encountered. Your last comments are nothing short of insane. I hope you find some kind of peace in your life because you both are quite dangerous and evil. I am never going to stop having faith in God. I will never stop supporting the living word of God. I am sorry that you think God and Jesus are a joke. I fear for you as you are messing with God the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last. At least Nie believes in God and Jesus, but you two are shameful in your mocking of our Creator. I have no words to describe the evilness you both fling at me and Christians. You are both left to your own miserable depraved lives. When you stand before God, you will have to say that your own depravity, JC Penny, and Ellen came before HIM our Lord. Good Luck on that day.
This has nothing to do with anyone’s relationship with God. It has to do with the hate you are spewing to the LGBT community. My life’s not miserable just because I have different religious beliefs than you do. I’m Jewish and we have same-sex marriage. Israel recognizes same-sex marriage. How do you reconcile that? Most fundamentalists and evangelicals are rabid Israel supporters.
Oh by the way, you can all have the last word. I don’t give a hoot, have it! I know you want it so here is your chance to mock God and Christians one more time. I won’t be responding so have a field day. Godspeed.
Interesting that you refuse to answer my question, Paula. Simple question. How do you reconcile the two? I’m not the biblical scholar, but the Israeli Supreme Court judges who legalized same-sex marriage in Israel are. How do you reconcile that with evangelical support for Israel?
From a few posts back…”The homos knew of their HETERO brothers blasphemy, but accepted the HETERO as equals, born of the same Mother & Father, but chastised them for being immoral and using intercourse for pleasure.” WOW!!! How did I get that line so screwed up!!! Freudian slip? LOL
And I am an Agnostic. Because I can’t answer the question of where we come from, I take comfort in the myth of God. I do NOT take comfort in the insanity of Religion. I believe in MY God. I believe that if I live my life as a good person then I will have every question I ever asked or thought of answered when I die, because I believe there’s got to be something better than this, otherwise what’s the point. In the meantime, I will live according to the 10 commandments, because they are true and just rules with no prejudice, and avoid the 7 deadly sins, some of which I’ve broken, but not bad enough to condemn me to Hell, because I am repentent of those sins. Simplistic? Yes, but so what.
So I’ve asked a writer friend of mine about taking my stories and writing a book or screenplay. What do you think?
And BTW, Me thinks the lady doth protest too much…
@ David..Hopefully the ISC has come around to the fact that the world is the way it is because of their (hetero) sins and they are trying to atone for those sins. Some day there will be Peace 🙂
Allen…go for it! It would be a best seller!
I will stop buying from JC Penney after reading the headline in this blog. A difference of opinion doesn’t make someone a “hate” group. I guess Gay and Lesbian groups are HATE groups now too, since they launched their campaign against Kirk Cameron’s beliefs.
Paula- i am a lesbian and i am also christian. crazy, right? it actually exists. i support both god AND the LGBT community. i love my girlfriend and i will continue to love my girlfriend until the day i die. and, i hope that i will be able to love her as my wife one day, as well. not everyone who supports all sexual orientations are god hating evil people, like you clearly stated. i love god. AND, i love my girlfriend. oh, and i also support objectum sexual and pansexuals, too. look them up. to each his/her own.
RobinNJ- LGBT groups are not hate groups. the groups are about supporting equal rights for ALL sexual orientations, not about hating on Heterosexuals or religious groups. allthough, there are some people who take things too far, they do not represent what the groups are all about. groups like OMM ARE hate groups. they do everything in their power to bring down the LGBT community. that’s their sole purpose.